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  'BELIEVE IT OR LEAVE IT' - a long time faders dilemma.

  by nicolaou in

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  2. experiences

  i've noticed a lot of newbies aren't bothering with long fades from the wt.

  good for them, perhaps this younger, more savvy generation are more comfortable sticking two fingers up to the organisation and forcing their families to make the uncomfortable decisions about associating with them.. i applaud you, you were happy to believe it or leave it.. me?

  i submitted my last field service report more than 11 years ago and have been 'fading' ever since, and i'm sick of it.

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  It makes me so sad to see the harsh dilemma so many here face . I remember being so afraid of what 'may' happen in response to my fade . At that time my sons and husband were all very active ....I was terrified as to how they would react . For me I just could not dangle along one more day pretending to be something I no longer was ....I tried to respect them without totally denying my own self . Thankfully it has all worked out .

  I hope the same for you I really do . No one should have to waste one more moment cowtowing to anothers belief just to save themselves from the pain of unacceptance for having an alternate opinion .

  It has taken about six yrs now and things were not as bad as I had imagined . My immmediate family all followed me out over a period of two yrs . My witness in laws have a limited but cordial relationship with us now . In fact they are visiting this week . We never discuss the fact that our family is no longer active JW's and that we are celebrating holidays ect... They have resolved to treat us as they do other 'worldly ' family . They chose to see us once a yr and limited phone calls . This past visit has been almost normal . There have been some casualties for some family relationships ,but over all it is working .

  May you find a way acceptable to you in order to have a measure of peace . Best wishes to you Nicolaou
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  Need Opinions -- Engaged to a JW!!

  by junebug_11 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  ok, quick run down of my situation.. .

  1. i am not religious.

  my now-fiance was raised jw but left the religion about 10 years ago.. 2. we started dating last march, i got pregnant within two weeks.

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  I grew up in what the Jehovah's Witnesses call a divided household . My Mother was the Witness my Father not . It was a horrible way to be raised ....For one I was in constant conflict emotionally and mentally as to which parent to please . I was taught not to completely trust my own Dasd just because he was not a lover of Jehovah .

  The images of the end of the world were etched into my young impressionable mind . Is that something you want for your own child ? To be exposed to religious thinking that teaches unbelievers will have their eyes melt out of their heads ,and the birds of the sky pluck off their flesh during God's great and almighty war against evil and unbelieving mankind ??????

  Please reconsider for the sake of your child . Be brutally honest with your boyfriend . Tell him now if you plan on allowing your child to live a normal lifestyle . What if you decide to never allow him to inculcate the child into the religion ? How does he feel about that ? How do you feel about him being away from the family on weekends {while after his reinstatement he will be expected to do field service and attend all meetings } ? You state that you want to show support to him in his religion ....how ever if you ever decide to choose a different religion he will show similar consideration ??

  His life will change once he is fully back into the religion ....this is not your average belief system . Yes on appearances it appears to be a morally ,bible based way of life . But the creepy underlying truth is your life becomes subject to a group of men prying and weilding authority over even the most private sides of your life ........

  PLEASE PLEASE think very cautiously about the decision you are about to make .
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  I DONT want their help! :D

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello people,.

  despite the advice given here, i thought it only fair to tell the elders that are calling me to 'help me' with my sexuality, that i dont want their help!

  yesterday one called.. he told me that he and another elder would like to speak with me to find out what the situation is.

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  Be prepared that this indeed is not the end of it for them . That Elder will pow-wow with the other Elders and they will try again to get you to meet . Stick to your guns .

  To stop incessant phone calls and questioning I had to send a certified letter to the Elders hinting at legal action if they did not cease /desist .I went to my local Police station and filed a copy of the letter with them also (stating this in the letter to the Elders makes an impact ) . It has been over a year since I sent that letter and so far no one has tried to contact me again .

  Wishing you well
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  Tonight I disassociated myself - after 24 years - had 2 hour meeting with Elder

  by Intel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am now sitting at home.

  my wife left with my little child.

  my fault (i dislike the word "fault", but don't have a better one right now).. it feels strange, relieved and free, at the same time it was all very strange.

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  INTEL , Does it feel like you can breathe now ? I know once I made my decision and just did it ....it was such a relief . It is good you have some friends already in place to support you through this situation . I have been out for six yrs and have slowly come back into contact with other local faded JWs and df'd ones from my passed . It is nice now to be able to reminese with ones that know my history . You miss that after family and friends start jumping ship .

  No matter how hard the transition is .....it is so worth it ......freedom is priceless .
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  Personality test based on how you listen to music

  by DJPoetech in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i designed a 4 question personality test that looks at the simple ways you listen to music.. it can determine from those questions your 4 letter mbti code.

  from there i included some fun links that goes deeper into the personality traits.. i have yet to try this in a larger forum such as this but was wondering the results and if i can develope this.. .

  it may prove useful in my eventual psychology studies.. just follow the link.

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  ESTP........hmmmmm idk
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  How many will Jehovah KILL at armageddon?

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well that depends on the world population.. .

  if he had done it it 1914, he would only have killed 2 billion.. if he had done it in 1960, then he would have killed 3 billion.. if he had done it in 1975 ( so now we know why he didn't) he would only have had 4 billion to kill.. so is the question of when armaggedon will come, related to how many he wants to kill?.

  interestingly this site ( but dont bother reading it all, its......well you'll see).

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  An unfair test...

  by MrFreeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the holy wt, satan and his demons influence humans to do bad things.

  as a result of the bad things that satan makes us do, we are going to be judged.

  is that really fair?

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  OMG LORE ......I usually never laugh out loud while reading ,but your comment sure did the trick .
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  I'm sorry I knocked on your door

  by corpusdei in

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  2. friends

  they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  nowhere is that more evident, i think, than in the kingdom hall.

  like so many others that i knew, i thought the watchtower society had it right, that their answers were the correct ones.

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  Thank you for sharing your story . I wish all those wanting to leave the JW's would be able to read such life stories and realize they too can escape . It is horrible to be in that spot where you think peace will only come by ending your own exisitence ....so very sad .
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  I gotta take an extended break

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i gotta get out of here.

  i have too much at stake right now in my life to spend as much time here as i do.

  i love you all!

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  GOOD FOR YOU SAB- Priorities should be family welfare first . It's good you know when you need to make a change and then carry through .I respect that very much .

  Good luck son .
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  I need support please

  by AwSnap in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the most part, i am able to understand how my family treats me.

  i was a jw for 20 years...since birth.

  i used to shun people.

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  troubled mind

  It is wrong for her to treat you this way ,but you know she is conflicted because of the Jehovah Witness mind-set . KEEP the QUILT !! It shows her 'real' personality and ,love for you and the baby ,shining through . I am sure she is miserable missing out on your pregnancy .

  BTW you look radiant pregnant ! I watch everyday on facebook waiting for the big announcement of the arrival of your baby

  Yes your hormones are wrecking havoc on your emotions right now ....it just comes with the whole wonders of mother hood package . You keep sending your sister updates and hopefully the power of a new baby will melt her JW boundries ,she has set ,down .

  Be prepared ....from one mommy to another ....right after birth your emotions can swing more than you could ever imagined. Don't make any rash decisons during that time ,prepare your husband to be your sounding board and for him to be a rock for you .

  Much love to you dear ,and waiting excitingly to hear for baby announcements .

  Contact me on facebook if I can be a listening ear or for moral support ,Brenda J.